Mojang will begin blocking EULA breaking servers after MC 1.9.3

Started by Towelie, Apr 30, 2016, 11:13 PM

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MasterGo89

oh goodness thank god!!
I was gonna say this could be a empty threat ya know. kinda like the letters they send people when they catch them torrentingright?..like stop doing this or someone somewhere might just sue you.
I hope nothing comes of it :0 I would really hate to loose the work ive put in in such a small amount of time hahaha. I really do love this server. I guess only safeguards can be put in place from this day forward

Dpa1991

Quote from: Towelie on Apr 30, 2016, 11:54 PMUpdated original post. Keep in mind I was sleeping when Dpa messaged me this so I was more asleep than awake. therefor I panicked before realizing exactly what is going on.

Theres still plenty of reason to panic, we will be blacklisted at the current rate. Don't take this as any less severe, it's still just as bad.

PandaPugz

Is it bad that I'm crying right now?

Just gonna throw this out there, I honestly wouldn't be alive without sft...

I've met so many amazing people on sft and idek what I'd do if it was gone... Sft is my life, I'm always on it. It keeps my mind off of shit that I have to deal with every single day, and I'm pretty sure it's the same for many other players on sft.

#LongLiveSFT

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MasterGo89

this is a really dumb move on mojang. i wonder if they are trying to follow WoW model ya know?... like lets piss off the Vets. of the game and take away servers and things that make servers unique... its dumb and its not the 1st or last game/games to do this...its a bloody shame it is.. a server cant live with ought donations... people dont get perks. people dont play. people dont play? severs go down. its a dam shame

ochoaj

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― Benjamin Franklin

Towelie

For now, just sit and wait, for the future I assume we'll need donations (after we go eula friendly)


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DuanetheDino

What my understanding is that SFT Minecraft (mainly Survival) is going to be affected. We need everyone in the community to help with A.) Donations (if possible, of course) B.) Think of new community games to play C.) Keep playing the new games if you love SFT. This looks bad, but it certainly doesn't mean it's the end. Let's kick some ass and get rolling on our uprise again!
//Duane 8)

Papa_Fish


Chinwonder2

I haven't been active in a long while but this news is extremely unsettling. I've met so many nice people over the almost 4 years I've been around on this wonderful community and I would absolutely be mortified if that just dissapeared.

When I first saw the EULA changes a year or so ago I thought it was ok considering servers would be more fair and stuff, but seeing the absolute damage it's caused smaller, honest and fair from the beginning communities is just shocking.

Mojang have gone way too far this time...

-Chin
Such gorgeous human beings! :heart:

BritanniaRules


Cireshie

To be honest, if SFT is kept up and wants to go beyond survival, pixelmon, B-Team and pocket in the future, we should be sure that people will play whatever server is created for more than a few weeks.

No offense to MineQwest, the hype was too much but some blame goes towards the players. I felt like most people said they would play a lot but a week later, 30 people dwindled down to only a few. Surely, weeks/months of planning didn't equal a few days/weeks of playtime.

It's not the first time either. It also happened to the Bread and Butter server (rip) which fell apart after a few weeks, too.

You say you want to move away from Minecraft. You could try opening a "beta" server for a different game, but with Qwest's "beta" server, I saw that most people got bored even before the "official release".

You may already know all of this, but I still want to remind you. Time is precious and I don't want you to waste it.

Sorry for mentioning and attacking Qwest so much. It's the most fresh and most recent example I could think of.



lioneatszebra

I have a couple of questions about the future of SFT, but I don't want to jump to conclusions and make people think about that.

My main question is, do you think the website will still be around if the servers dwindle?

Additionally, how is revenue going to be raised for other non-minecraft servers?

Also, how do they know who is in EULA violation?
brb, living offline

alexbhe

You know who I blame? Microsoft. But i guess blame doesn't really help here, we gotta play creative in the upcoming months!

BrokenVows (Liam)

Words can not truly show how shocked I am... I've been playing for only 3.5 months, but those have been some of the best in my life. Thank you for that.
#Believe

BattleAxium

Quote from: djkirsh on May 01, 2016, 12:49 AMI have a couple of questions about the future of SFT, but I don't want to jump to conclusions and make people think about that.

My main question is, do you think the website will still be around if the servers dwindle?

Additionally, how is revenue going to be raised for other non-minecraft servers?

Also, how do they know who is in EULA violation?

Other servers like ArmA 3 Altis Life, you can get Bohemia's approval for monetization. GMod you can do any donations you want, since Gary Newman really doesn't care who makes money off his game.

Most games besides Minecraft have clear and concise EULAs and monetization policies to ensure everyone understands what they can/can't make money off. I feel it's time to move on from Minecraft but heh what do I know?

lioneatszebra

Quote from: BattleAxium on May 01, 2016, 12:58 AMOther servers like ArmA 3 Altis Life, you can get Bohemia's approval for monetization. GMod you can do any donations you want, since Gary Newman really doesn't care who makes money off his game. Most games besides Minecraft have clear and concise EULAs and monetization policies to ensure everyone understands what they can/can't make money off. I feel it's time to move on from Minecraft but heh what do I know?

Thanks! :) I'll be looking into other games that could work too, now that I have examples. It would be interesting to see the direction in which SFT can go when we're not focused on Minecraft.
brb, living offline

BattleAxium

Quote from: djkirsh on May 01, 2016, 01:00 AM
Quote from: BattleAxium on May 01, 2016, 12:58 AMOther servers like ArmA 3 Altis Life, you can get Bohemia's approval for monetization. GMod you can do any donations you want, since Gary Newman really doesn't care who makes money off his game. Most games besides Minecraft have clear and concise EULAs and monetization policies to ensure everyone understands what they can/can't make money off. I feel it's time to move on from Minecraft but heh what do I know?

Thanks! :) I'll be looking into other games that could work too, now that I have examples. It would be interesting to see the direction in which SFT can go when we're not focused on Minecraft.

I've been saying this all along. But, I'm glad someone else is finally catching on... :)

skullgirls

Mojang, mojang, mojang. I'd like to think they'd have a good reason to do this, but I can't imagine. I'm going to miss the SFT minecraft servers a ton, but I'd be willing to follow into whatever new games we may be focusing on in the future.

bradyllewis

dang thats some heavy news. i hope it all gets worked out in the end

Bakonator

This is by far the most depressing thing I have seen on the Forum by far. We hope the server make it over this crisis.

skullgirls

Quote from: skullgirls on May 01, 2016, 01:07 AMMojang, mojang, mojang. I'd like to think they'd have a good reason to do this, but I can't imagine. I'm going to miss the SFT minecraft servers a ton, but I'd be willing to follow into whatever new games we may be focusing on in the future.

Read a few replies and wish to add on to this. I hate to be bleak but I can't help to be angry. This server has been a single source of happiness and productivity in my life and I guess I'm kind of covering up my sadness with anger. I really, really hope we can get through this, or I've got a very sharp bone to pick with Mojang.

Thank you Owners for doing your best to get this sorted out. We just need to wait and see what we can do.

Dpa1991

Quote from: DuanetheDino on May 01, 2016, 12:18 AMWhat my understanding is that SFT Minecraft (mainly Survival) is going to be affected. We need everyone in the community to help with A.) Donations (if possible, of course) B.) Think of new community games to play C.) Keep playing the new games if you love SFT. This looks bad, but it certainly doesn't mean it's the end. Let's kick some ass and get rolling on our uprise again!
//Duane 8)


What?

What about this mainly affects survival?

Fractalion

Before this devolves into a bunch of posts about how Mojang sucks for doing this, I feel like I should explain why this is happening.

Mojang/Microsoft is not a privately owned company. It is a large company with many shareholders, and they are obligated to do what is best for their shareholders.

There are a bunch of servers out there that allow connections from non-premium copies of the game. This means people who do not actually own Minecraft are able to connect to these servers, which means Mojang/Microsoft loses out on a sale. Many of these servers are monetized by preventing people from accessing certain features unless they pay. It's sort of like selling Minecraft for less than the game is worth, and not having any of that money go to Mojang/Microsoft.

This is where the EULA comes in. It makes it so that it is illegal to sell parts of the core game or other advantages. This is how Mojang/Microsoft is able to control the aforementioned non-premium servers.

You might find yourself asking "If the non-premium servers are the problem, why are they targeting people who aren't directly harming them, like SFT?" Well, quite simply, that's not how copyright law works. You can't pick and choose who you go after. You either enforce your claim and go after everyone who breaches the EULA, no matter how insignificant their impact is, or you allow everyone to do whatever they please. There is no middle ground.

With that in mind, you might also find yourself asking "Well, Mojang/Microsoft have a lot of money already, why do they need to target people who are siphoning a bit of money out of their pockets?" Well, remember how I said Mojang/Microsoft is a large company with many shareholders? That's why they cannot ignore this. Mojang/Microsoft are legally required to do what is in the best interests of their shareholders. If they do not enforce the EULA, that means they are knowingly acting in a way that will make their shares worth less than they could be, and that would mean many legal problems for them.

I understand that this entire situation is quite sucky, but you simply cannot blame Mojang/Microsoft for this, they have about as much control over what is happening as we do. They are legally required to do this, and it might suck, but that is the truth.

However, don't count SFT out yet. We will survive this. Things may seem uncertain right now, but we will find our way through the storm, we always do.